2025 Event Pictures

The highlight of our season was our annual awards banquet, where 60 members gathered for a wonderful evening of dinner and dancing at the Kelowna Golf & Country Club. Gord Angus served as our capable MC, and the food and service were, as always, exceptional.

At the banquet, we recognized many long-time members for their years in the club:

65 years: Dayton & Marie Ross
50 years: Elsie Robertson
30 years: Bill & Pauline Fleming, Gary Van Norman
25 years: Bob & Josie Cunningham, Lea Maye
20 years: Gary & Sheila Patt
15 years: Glen & Debbie Briggeman, Ken Laderoute & Carol Gulliford, Tom & Marie Mackie, Sandra Turgay
5 Years: Maurice & Gloria Francoeur, Terry & Gillian Johnston, Andrew & Kathy Kiesewetter, Mark & Nadine Ritchie

Trophy winners for 2025:

Hard Luck Award: Bob & Josie Cunningham (for an unfortunate breakdown on their way to an event. They had to have their car hauled!)
Best Couple’s Score Trophy: Deb & Glen Briggeman (from our annual golf tournament)
Most Meetings & Events: Larry & Anne Buckmaster (1935 Ford Cabriolet)
Most Desirable Vehicle: Don & Doreen Roper’s 1932 Ford Roadster (voted on by members)
Outstanding Member of the Year: Kevin Cooper - for his many contributions to the club, including creating and maintaining our new website, online roster, membership management, regalia, and newsletter. This award was voted on by members. All this while working full-time and keeping up with his three kids!

- Terry Johnston and Kevin Cooper

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Village at Mill Creek Show & Shine - Sept 24, 2025

Photos by Ed

What a perfect day for a car show—and did we ever put some beautiful cars on display!

The residents loved all 24 vehicles, and we received many wonderful comments.

Fred and Ginny Bobye brought their stunning 1957 Chevrolet convertible for the first time, and it was a big hit with everyone.

It was also Fern Cooper’s birthday, so Kevin brought her along and stayed for the whole show instead of heading into work.

Darrel Brunt treated us to a delicious Black Forest cake in memory of his dad, a longtime member of our club who spent his later years living at the Village at Mill Creek.

A big thank-you to Brigette Newell, Recreation Program Coordinator, who once again did a fantastic job organizing this fun event. We truly appreciated the lunch and your warm hospitality.

The residents voted for their favourite cars in several fun categories:

Oldest Car – 1927 Model T (Ken Buhler)
Shiniest Car – 1960 Thunderbird (Nino Giammarino)
Belongs in a Movie – 1966 VW Beetle (Otto & Lynn Oltmanns)
Belongs in a Museum – 1949 Willys Wagon (Ed & Marilyn Wilson)
Best Love Machine – 1955 Chevrolet Pickup (Glen Briggeman)
Best Getaway Car – Red Hot 1960 Corvette (Judy Magee)

This was our last show of the season, and I want to thank not only those who came today but also everyone who participated in our other shows throughout the year.

It has been a superb season—beautiful weather, beautiful cars, and wonderful people. The perfect formula for great car shows! I look forward to seeing everyone again next season.

Cheers, Terry Johnston

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Mountainview Retirement Residence Show & Shine - Sept 16, 2025

Photos by Ed

The weather was absolutely perfect! The residents loved the selection of cars to view, and they liked all 15 of them. We had exactly the right amount of space to park the cars, and there was a nice shady area to sit. Lots of nice comments from the residents who really appreciated us coming. Steven Brown, the coordinator, thought it was the best show ever, and I had to agree after watching the enthusiasm from the residents. At noon, we were served pizza in the garden, which was very enjoyable. This is exactly what our shows are all about - an opportunity to engage with people who really enjoy seeing our cars and hearing about them, as well as telling us stories of cars they had in the past (and wished they had kept).
Thank you to Steven and everyone at Mountainview, and thank you to the 15 car owners who participated.
Hard to beat a day like this!
Cheers - Terry Johnston

Here are the results from the polls gathered...drum roll please...

Shiniest Car - Nino’s 1960 T Bird

Nicest Upholstery - Nino’s 1960 T Bird

Belongs in a Museum - Ken’s 1927 Model T

Brings Back the Most Memories - Bob’s 1956 Ford Crown Victoria

Best Car for a Bank Robbery - Judy’s 1960 Corvette

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Sandalwoods Retirement Residence Show & Shine - Sept 9, 2025

Photos by Garet & Terry

A big Thank you to everyone at Sandalwood Retirement Resort for their hospitality today! The biggest ingredient for a successful car show is the weather, and it was beautiful. We had a record number of cars at the show with a total of 25 really beautiful machines. The BBQ lunch was also great!
The residents loved all the cars, and we had over 70 people fill out a questionnaire on which cars they liked best.
Eight cars were chosen as follows, but the voting was very, very close on every category.
Best Love Wagon: Buckmaster's 1935 Ford
Best Sunday Drive: Johnston’s '63 Nova convertible
Best Tires and Rims: Kehoe’s 1928 Model A
Best Colour & Paint: Deegan’s 1949 Mercury
Best Interior: Maurice’s 1953 Chevy convertible
Best Getaway Car: Judy’s 1960 Corvette
Wish I Had It: Nino’s 1960 Thunderbird
People’s Choice Favourite: Judy’s 1960 Corvette

A huge THANK YOU to Lindsay Knitter for coordinating such a successful event.
All of us from the Kelowna Classics thoroughly enjoyed ourselves.
Cheers - Terry Johnston

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Kootenay Road Trip - Sept 7-9, 2025

Photos by George

On Thursday, September 4, twelve members of the Vintage Car Club set out from Oyama for a trip to the Kootenays. Glen and Debbie Briggeman, drawing on their extensive knowledge of the area, prepared and guided our group.

Although there was some smoke in the air, the weather was good. Our six cars were easily accommodated on the Needles Ferry. Near Burton, we stopped at a bridge to watch spawning Kokanee salmon in Cariboo Creek, then enjoyed lunch at Hoss & Jill’s Bistro in Nakusp before visiting the ghost town of Sandon. Sandon proved to be a fascinating stop, with vintage buses, old machinery, and even some delicious ice cream to enjoy.

From there, we travelled on to Kaslo for the night and had a lovely dinner at the historic Kaslo Hotel. Friday morning, we headed south toward Nelson, stopping at the Balfour Golf Course for lunch. In Nelson, we stayed at the Best Western Hotel in the downtown area.

Saturday was a highlight of the trip — Nelson’s 21st Annual Queen City Cruise. Over 500 vintage cars lined the main street and side streets, with many owners nearby and happy to share stories about their vehicles. While some members admired the cars, others took the opportunity to browse the shops along Baker Street. That evening, most of us enjoyed the Prime Rib Special at the beautiful Hume Hotel.

On Sunday morning, we watched the famous 37th West Kootenay Toy Run as 163 motorcycles — led by Santa — paraded through Nelson on their way to Castlegar. Afterwards, we began our journey home.

We stopped in Christina Lake for coffee and treats, where Ian and Dee Pike stayed behind to visit family. The rest of us carried on, driving through several dramatic cloudbursts near Rock Creek, where the rain was so heavy we could barely see the road ahead. Our final stop was at the Prospector’s Pub in Rock Creek, where we shared our “last supper” together before heading home.

It was a well-planned and memorable trip, full of great sights and even better company. Our sincere thanks go to Glen and Debbie for organizing such a wonderful tour.
- George Staley

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Christina Lake Campout Reunion - August 29-31, 2025

Photos by Garet

A great group of folks assembled in Christina Lake for the annual campout. Drinks were had, stories were told, drinks were drunk, and even a few tears were shed! Look for the photos with the most colourful pants and the craziest hat! And don't ask about the "Native Canadian" costume. I have no idea what is going on with that.

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Joel's Tour #7 - August 28, 2025

Photos by Terry & Larry & Garet

We had perfect weather for our final short car tour of the season, with 15 club members ready to explore Okanagan Centre Museum. Our drive took us along Glenmore Road to Okanagan Centre Road, then a leisurely cruise along the lakeshore to the local museum. There, we learned that Okanagan Centre had once been a thriving community in the early 1900s, complete with two hotels, a school, a general store, a gas station, a repair shop, an orchard, and a fruit packing house.

From there, we continued up Camp Road to Jack Seaton Park, once part of the Rainbow Ranch and home to many Japanese workers. The tour then carried on through scenic back roads to Intrigue Winery, where we enjoyed excellent wine and the comfort of their welcoming outdoor picnic area.

A big thank you to everyone who joined in on the tours this season!
– Joel

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Wings and Wheels - Aug 23, 2025

Photos by Ed & Bob

Wings and Wheels event at the Kelowna Airport. You got cars, you got planes, what more do you need?

Thanks to Darrell for helping to organize this event!

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Joel's Tour #6 - Aug 21, 2025

Photos by Ed

What a perfect day for a tour! It was wonderful to see Jim Carpenter and his girlfriend, Karen, out enjoying the drive with us. Our group wound its way along the quiet back roads of East Kelowna, taking in the views and the late-summer scenery.

A highlight of the day was our stop at Arlo’s Honey Farm, where we enjoyed a sweet and fascinating tour, learning about bees and honey production. From there, the route took us downhill into the Lower Mission, with plenty of scenic views along the way.

We finished the day at Bertram Creek Park, where everyone settled in for a leisurely lakeside lunch, good conversation, and a chance to relax under the trees by the water. A truly enjoyable outing from start to finish!

– Joel

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Joel's Tour #5 - Aug 14, 2025

Photos by Ed

We had 14 beautiful vintage cars on this tour.

Our first stop was Chaparral Homes, where we met Julie, the sales manager. She gave us a tour of the show home and shared information about the company. They were incredibly generous—providing coffee mugs, free t-shirts, coffee, and donuts. We then toured the plant with John, the owner, which was both fascinating and informative.

Just a short five-minute drive later, we arrived at Metal Art (Facebook page). Daren showed us around his impressive collection—wonderful metal art pieces created from old cars, along with an amazing assortment of vintage cars, trucks, and street rods.

Our final stop was Scenic Road Cider Co. (website), just around the corner. We enjoyed a relaxing lunch in comfortable chairs, seated among the apple trees in their beautiful orchard, while sipping glasses of refreshing apple cider.

— Joel

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Joel's Tour #6 - Aug 21, 2025

Photos by Ed

What a perfect day for a tour! It was wonderful to see Jim Carpenter and his girlfriend, Karen, out enjoying the drive with us. Our group wound its way along the quiet back roads of East Kelowna, taking in the views and the late-summer scenery.

A highlight of the day was our stop at Arlo’s Honey Farm, where we enjoyed a sweet and fascinating tour, learning about bees and honey production. From there, the route took us downhill into the Lower Mission, with plenty of scenic views along the way.

We finished the day at Bertram Creek Park, where everyone settled in for a leisurely lakeside lunch, good conversation, and a chance to relax under the trees by the water. A truly enjoyable outing from start to finish!

– Joel

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Kelowna Classics Pulled Pork Picnic - Aug 10, 2025

Photos by Ed

A wonderful display of classic cars filled Ian's beautiful property for our annual summer chapter event.

One highlight was seeing Vic behind the wheel of the completed 1948 Pontiac convertible — a project originally started by the late Alf. What a gorgeous ride!

If the cars on display are any indication of our members’ preferences, Ford Mustangs were clearly the most popular, easily outnumbering everything else.

More than 50 members and six guests enjoyed a hot, sunny afternoon of socializing and savouring the “First Lady’s” pulled pork on a bun, served with salads, and finished off with ice cream drumsticks. Mina's kids, Zaxtin and Zulric, were very helpful with the food serving and the collection of money.

In the shade, Mina hosted a table selling books and jigsaw puzzles for the Autoette's Bursary Fund. She also displayed a collection of hats, gloves, and other period ladies’ clothing — generously donated to our chapter by founding member Edith which were free to any members who could use and appreciate them.

Ian had his shop open, giving members a progress update on his current hot rod project: a lime green 1925 Ford Tall T.

A huge thank you to Dee and Ian for sharing their property and making this event possible, and to everyone who helped make the day a success.

Our thoughts are with members who couldn’t attend due to health issues — we hope you’re feeling better soon.

— Glen, “The Prez”

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Joel & Dee's Tour #4 - Aug 7, 2025

Photos by Ed & Garet

Wow – What a Tour!

Joel says it was the biggest day tour he can remember!

We met at McCurdy Corner and left at 10:00 AM. A stop in Oyama added three more cars to the group, bringing us to a lucky 13. Joel held a draw for a Tim Hortons gift card, which was won by Gloria.

From there, we cruised to Vernon, enjoying the stunning colours of Kalamalka Lake along the way. We turned off Highway 97 onto the Silver Star Road, then onto L&A Road, arriving at the beautiful home of Earl and Shirley.

Their property is gorgeous, and they had a few impressive cars to show us. To our surprise, they treated us to hot dogs, fresh fruit, and homemade blueberry tarts—what a fantastic stop! With around 20 cars gathered in their yard and a barbecue going, it almost felt like one of our seniors’ home shows.

Fed and happy, we followed Earl and Shirley—riding in their mile-long, beautiful 1962 Cadillac—to the home of Willie and Deb. Another stunning location, complete with a dream shop, a gorgeous blue ’53 Ford pickup, and a lovely blue Firebird 400.

Next, we toured over to Pat and Tracy’s place. Another incredible home with a massive shop—and even a couple of good-looking horses!

Pat, the poor guy, only has ten fabulous cars to choose from every day. Two Nomads, a candy-apple-red Ford pickup, another classic Ford truck, and several Chevys. Tough choices, but he’s managing just fine!

After a good look around, we drove into Vernon to the Casino and had dinner at Matches Restaurant. Wings were on special—and judging by the number of plates, about 100 chickens made the ultimate sacrifice for our group.

What a fabulous day!
If you haven’t joined one of our tours yet, consider coming along next time. You don’t even need a collector car—just come for the fun! Big thanks to Dee and Joel for organizing such a fantastic day.
And thanks to Ed and Garet for capturing photos!

Cheers to everyone who came out,

Terry

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Joel's Tour #3 - July 31, 2025

Photos by Garet & Terry

We all met at McCurdy Corner at 10 a.m. on a beautiful sunny day that was quickly heating up.

Our drive took us east on McCurdy Road, up the hill and into the scenic countryside, passing orchards heavy with ripening fruit. Along the way, we were treated to stunning views of Kelowna and Okanagan Lake as we wound our way into the Ellison area.

We stopped at Mill Creek Regional Park, where some of us took a pleasant 10-minute walk each way to view the lovely waterfall, while others enjoyed a relaxing rest in the shade.

Once everyone had regrouped, we headed over to the Kelowna Flightcraft Centre for Excellence Museum —a spectacular facility packed with aircraft and aviation history. If you haven’t been, it’s definitely worth a visit!

Our final stop was lunch, where we had fun sitting in real airplane seats, imagining ourselves jetting off to exotic destinations.

A big thank you to Joel for organizing such a fantastic tour—everyone had a great time!

Cheers, Terry

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Orchard Gardens Senior Community Show & Shine - July 30, 2025

Photos by Terry

A big thank you to Dean and Brett at Orchard Gardens for hosting another fantastic event for the 5th consecutive year! Upon arrival on July 30, 2025, we were greeted with freshly brewed coffee and delicious muffins.

We filled the designated parking area with 16 stunning cars and enjoyed a shaded area under the trees for socializing. Lunch featured juicy barbecued hamburgers accompanied by salads and drinks.

Congratulations to our prize winners:

Terry and Gillian’s 1963 Nova convertible
Duncan’s 1966 Buick Skylark convertible
Ross’s 1949 Mercury custom
Dennis’s 1980 Camaro SC
Larry’s 1935 Ford Cabriolet, winning a fine bottle of spirits.

It was a delightful day enjoyed by all. Our next show is scheduled for September. Enjoy the remainder of your summer, and don’t miss out on Joel and Dee's upcoming tours tomorrow and next Thursday—they promise great fun!

Cheers, Terry

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Joel's Tour #2 - July 17, 2025

Photos by Ed

For Joel's second tour, we met at McCurdy Corner to begin our day, and after a quick chat, we hit the road. The short 5-mile highway drive took us through some lovely scenery and brought us to the interesting and well-curated Westbank Museum, where we spent some time exploring the exhibits and learning a few new things.

From there, we headed out on a relaxing cruise along the beach, enjoying the sunshine, fresh air, and the great lineup of classic vehicles rolling together. We wrapped up the outing with a picnic lunch at a beautiful beachside park — the perfect spot to unwind, visit, and enjoy a peaceful afternoon by the water.

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Orchard Gardens Senior Community Show & Shine - July 30, 2025

Photos by Terry

A big thank you to Dean and Brett at Orchard Gardens for hosting another fantastic event for the 5th consecutive year! Upon arrival on July 30, 2025, we were greeted with freshly brewed coffee and delicious muffins.

We filled the designated parking area with 16 stunning cars and enjoyed a shaded area under the trees for socializing. Lunch featured juicy barbecued hamburgers accompanied by salads and drinks.

Congratulations to our prize winners:

Terry and Gillian’s 1963 Nova convertible
Duncan’s 1966 Buick Skylark convertible
Ross’s 1949 Mercury custom
Dennis’s 1980 Camaro SC
Larry’s 1935 Ford Cabriolet, winning a fine bottle of spirits.

It was a delightful day enjoyed by all. Our next show is scheduled for September. Enjoy the remainder of your summer, and don’t miss out on Joel and Dee's upcoming tours tomorrow and next Thursday—they promise great fun!

Cheers, Terry

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Okanagan Chateau Show & Shine - July 15, 2025

Photos by Ed

What a fantastic show we had on July 15, 2025, at the Okanagan Chateau! A big thank you to Meg and Chelsea for hosting us and treating us to a delicious BBQ lunch complete with salads and drinks. They also generously provided beautiful gift baskets for three car show winners, along with a bottle of wine for each vehicle. 🍔🥗🥂🍷👍

Meg mentioned that the residents eagerly anticipate this event each year and talk about it for weeks afterward. One of the highlights was Jim and his 1951 Cadillac, famously ridden in by Queen Elizabeth when she was still Princess Elizabeth. Millie aged 102, expressed how honoured she felt to sit in the same car the Queen once rode in, showing a youthful enthusiasm with a big smile.

Congratulations to the winners:

First prize: Jim and his 1951 Cadillac
Second prize: Jim and Fran for their 1928 Model A
Third prize: Judy and her 1960 Corvette

We were thrilled to see a variety of cars, including our newest member, John and his 1941 Mercury Coupe. Also present at the show was a resident's cherished 1947 Triumph Roadster, a family treasure for over 60 years.

A heartfelt thank you to all the members who showcased their beautiful rides. Your participation is greatly appreciated by everyone, and I hope you had as much fun as I did.

Cheers! 🍷 Terry

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The Vineyards Residence Show & Shine - July 8, 2025

Photos by Ed

What a perfect day for a car show! The weather was warm and sunny, with plenty of shade for everyone to enjoy. Residents had the pleasure of viewing 17 stunning cars, and they selected their favourites:

Best in Show: Fran and Jim's beautiful 1928 Model A
Most Unique: Ed's exceptional 1949 Willys wagon
Best Interior: Peter's very rare 1960 Mercury Parklane
Best Paint Job: Otto's immaculate 1966 VW Beetle

A heartfelt thank you to Tiana for organizing everything at the Vineyards, and to all the members of the Kelowna Classics Chapter of the Vintage Car Club of Canada for showcasing such a fantastic array of vehicles.

Cheers to everyone who made this day special! - Terry

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Joel's Tour # 1 - July 3, 2025

Photos by Ed & Larry

We gathered at McCurdy Corner by 10 AM and enjoyed a leisurely drive along peaceful country roads, soaking in spectacular scenery. Our journey included a delightful stop at a Honey Winery and a picnic lunch in a serene park.

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Kelowna Classics Golf Tourament - June 26, 2025

Photos by Terry

The Kelowna Classics golf event took place on Thursday June 26 at Mission Creek Golf Course. It started off with Butch making a hole-in-one on the first hole! He was presented with a special hole-in-one key chain from the golf course.
The weather was perfect for golf, and the players all had a good time! Glen and Debbie were presented with the couples trophy. A big thank you to Gord for organizing this event.
Cheers to the participants! Terry

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Cottonwoods Care Centre Show & Shine - June 24, 2025

Photos by Ed & Terry

A heartfelt thank you to Michelle and the entire Cottonwoods team for hosting another fantastic show this year. We were delighted to showcase 16 stunning rides that captivated residents, family members, friends, and staff alike. The interaction between vehicle owners and attendees made for a memorable event.

The live musician serenaded us with nostalgic tunes from the cars' era, while coffee, donuts, lemonade, and Canada Day cake added to the festive atmosphere. Congratulations to our winners:

1st Prize: Ross’s 1949 Mercury
2nd Prize: Bob’s 1965 Ford Mustang
3rd Prize: James’s 1949 Prefect

Ford Motor Company had a standout day, producing all three show winners. Thank you to everyone who contributed to making this morning truly special.

Cheers,
Terry

Additional photos by Garet can be viewed here on our archived site. Click here.

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Sun Pointe Village Show & Shine - June 10, 2025

Photos by Ed

We had a beautiful day at Sun Pointe Village, 19 cars showed so nicely in the bright sunshine.
There was live music and a nice lunch and an ice cream truck, too! The residents picked the cars they liked the most, and it was hard to decide because they all looked great. The winners were:
Best Getaway car: Judy’s 1960 Corvette
Best Love Machine: Bob’s 1957 Dodge
Best overall: Larry’s 1935 Ford Cabriolet
A big thank you to the car owners, the Sun Pointe staff, and the musicians for making this such a successful event.
Cheers to all of you - Terry

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General Meeting & Chili Dinner @ Bobs - June 8, 2025

Photos by Ed

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Antique Tractor Show @ Father Pandosy Day Two - June 1, 2025

Photos by Garet

Gord and Dennis, working the gate!

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Antique Tractor Show @ Father Pandosy Day One- May 31, 2025

Photos by Ed

The kid's tractor ride is always a big hit with the little ones!

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Northwood Retirement Residence Show & Shine - May 27, 2025

Photos by Terry, Glen & Ed

We had 21 vehicles on display at the Northwoods Retirement Residence Show & Shine, and the residents and staff absolutely loved it! Everyone enjoyed a delicious BBQ lunch, along with great company, lots of laughs, and some fun prizes.

Award Winners:

Best Date Night – Nino’s 1960 Thunderbird
Best Paint – Ross and Bev’s 1949 Mercury
Dream Car – Bob’s 1965 Mustang
Brings Back the Memories – Jim’s 1928 Model A

The beautiful door prize went to Peggy.

Thank you and congratulations to everyone who participated and helped make this such a memorable day!

See photos below.

Thanks, Terry

The first Show & Shine of the year!

On May 27th, Northwood Retirement Resort hosted us for a fabulous car show on a beautiful day. We had 21 vehicles showing and the residents and staff loved it. We thoroughly enjoyed the BBQ lunch, the fun, the fellowship and the prizes.

Congratulations to everyone who participated in making this an amazing day!!

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Oltmann's Driving Tour in Princeton - May 24, 2025

Photos by Al

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Jake Warkentin Memorial Small Engine Show - Apr 26, 2025

Photos by Bill

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Shop Talk #4 - Apr 11, 2025

Photos by Ed , Bob & Larry

SHOP TALK FOUR

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Shop Talk #3 - Mar 15, 2025

Photos by Ed, Bob & Larry

SHOP TALK THREE

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Shop Talk #2 - Feb 15, 2025

Photos by Ed, Bob & Larry

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Shop Talk #1 - Jan 17, 2025

Photos by Bill, Tim, Ed, Bob & Larry